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Requests And Documents That Freak Out Notaries

Strange-Docs1.jpgFrom time to time, signers will make requests that stop Notaries dead in their tracks. An acknowledgment or jurat is a fairly straightforward task, but what do you do if someone asks you to fill out a form declaring you are a genuine Notary? Or wants you to affix your seal or stamp to paperwork without notarizing it? Or presents you with certificate wording that’s totally unfamiliar to you and insists you use it? If this happens to you, don’t panic — here are some tips to help you properly handle a variety of problematic requests.

Problem Request 1: Swearing That You Are A Real Notary

By signing and affixing an official seal on certificate wording, a Notary confirms that the signature was properly notarized and that they had proper authority to notarize the signature — but for some people, that isn’t enough. Some Notaries have been asked to go further and fill out and sign an affidavit where they swear or affirm that they are authorized to perform their duties and that they notarized a document on a certain date. Some of these affidavits may ask the Notary to describe the type of identification used and the type of document signed.

Technically, this type of affidavit should not be necessary — you’d never complete, sign and affix your seal on a certificate of notarial act if you weren’t authorized to do so, right? Minnesota is among several states that spells this out plainly in its laws: “The signature and title of a person performing a notarial act are prima facie evidence that the signature is genuine and that the person holds the designated title” (MS 358.43[c]).

If you are asked to complete and sign an additional affidavit attesting that you are a Notary or verifying details of a notarization, check your state laws first. You may not be able to sign the affidavit if it asks you to complete any information in your official capacity as a Notary. For example:

  • If the affidavit asks you to both sign and notarize it, remember that Notaries cannot notarize their own signatures. If you are asked to do so, you must refuse. It is also a conflict of interest to notarize a document you are named in or signing in an individual capacity.
  • Be careful if the affidavit asks you to sign using your title “Notary Public.” Your state may not allow you to do that. California is an example of a state that prohibits its Notaries from signing documents with their official title, except for lawful notarial duties only (GC 8207).

Strange-Docs2.jpgProblem Request 2: Affixing Your Seal Without Notarizing

In addition to what has just been said, you may be asked to not only sign your name or write down information but to affix an impression of your seal as well. However, you should never affix a seal impression on a document unless you are actually notarizing a signature in your official capacity. Some states explicitly prohibit this in statute — for example, Oregon forbids using a Notary seal for any purpose other than performing an official notarization (OAR 160-100-0110[5]) as does the District of Columbia (17 DCMR 2404.3).

Problem Request 3: Documents With Problematic Certificate Wording

Many signers assume that documents provided by a government agency or those they print off the internet will meet their needs and comply with state law. This isn’t always the case — many of these documents, for example, describe a type of notarization that isn’t allowed by state law or contain incorrect Notary certificate wording.

Remember that for every notarization you perform you must sign a certificate that tells the world what you witnessed in performing it. If you discover that the certificate describes a notarial act that your state does not authorize you to perform, you’ll have to refuse to perform the requested act. If the certificate describes an act you can perform, but the certificate wording isn’t quite right, then the solution may be as simple as completing and attaching another certificate with the correct wording.

Resolving Problem Requests For Notary Signing Agents

Mortgage lenders typically use document preparation companies to prepare all the documents in a loan package so that they are compliant with the law and include the correct wording. However, it’s still possible that Notary Signing Agents may encounter one of the problem situations described above. If you encounter an issue with a document that you can’t resolve, contact your contracting company or the closing agent while still at the signing table to ask for instructions how to proceed.

David Thun is an Asst. Managing Editor at the National Notary Association.

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Alejandra

26 Jan 2023

From time to time I get a form to fill out my personal information along with singing that I am a notary. This makes me feel uneasy especially when it asks me for my street address. Am I obligated to complete these forms? -- Virginia

National Notary Association

30 Jan 2023

Based on what you’ve described, we think it would be best if you contacted our Hotline team by phone and provided them with a more detailed description of the situation. The NNA Hotline: 1-888-876-0827 Mon – Fri: 5:00 a.m. – 7:00 p.m. (PT) Saturday: 5:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. (PT) If you’re not an NNA Member or Hotline Subscriber, they will provide you with a one-time courtesy call.

Brittany

26 Jan 2023

I am commissioned in Arizona and I was wondering if the swearing that I am real Notary affidavit needs to be recorded in the Notary Journal

National Notary Association

30 Jan 2023

Based on what you’ve described, we think it would be best if you contacted our Hotline team by phone and provided them with a more detailed description of the situation. The NNA Hotline: 1-888-876-0827 Mon – Fri: 5:00 a.m. – 7:00 p.m. (PT) Saturday: 5:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. (PT) If you’re not an NNA Member or Hotline Subscriber, they will provide you with a one-time courtesy call.

Brittany

25 Jan 2023

Should the Notary Affidavit be recorded in the Notary Journal?

National Notary Association

26 Jan 2023

Hello. To help us answer your question, can you please tell us what state you are commissioned in, and can you please clarify what you mean by a 'Notary affidavit?'

Barbara Campbell

03 Aug 2020

What if the signature on the paper being notarized is definitely not the signature of the person that was suppose to sign it and you have proof..

National Notary Association

04 Aug 2020

Hello. If you have reason to believe a signature is fraudulent, you should refuse the notarization request. Article IV-E-2 of The Notary Public Code of Professional Responsibility recommends: "The Notary shall refuse to perform any notarial act in connection with a document or transaction that the Notary knows, or has a reasonable belief that can be articulated, is illegal, dishonest, deceptive, false, fraudulent, or improper."

B R Tandel

09 Dec 2018

Very useful information. Thank you

PARACES Delva

03 Dec 2018

Thank you for that instructive formationRP

John Axt

03 Dec 2018

I use a stamp that reads, for Texas, Cannot Notarize, Sec 406.008(b)(2)(6). Never have a question when you know your laws!

Dave Nixon

03 Dec 2018

I had encountered this "stamp here as proof of commissiom" on a page that required my signature. I always would sign it and line through with initials the part above in quotes. So when firle called me from time fo time for not following their instfuctions, I had to teach them that it is illegal for anyone to notorize their own signatire. Other notaries would just draw a line on the page for the borrower to sign. Not good enough, since there was never a notorial certificate on the page.

Carol Spruiell

03 Dec 2018

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National Notary Association

03 Dec 2018

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p

03 Dec 2018

good

Martha Bramlett

03 Dec 2018

Thank you for this VERY helpful information.

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